Monday, 24 August 2026

Napoleonic Naval Spanish Third Rates


It's back from the holiday so back to the workbench to finish off three 1/2400th Third Rates for the Spanish Fleet. These are the 80 gun San Rafael with the 75 gun Algerciras and Bahama. I have another four of these to assemble, hopefully by the end of the week, after which I'm going to wrap up the summer production line with a handful of Royal Navy second rates. 

1 comment:

  1. Like the Royal Navy, the Spanish built their two-decker ships of the line to be able to defend a global empire. Some had VERY long lives. But it seems that one price the Spanish paid for long-voyage survivability was a lighter armament. Until around 1805, Spanish 74s (and indeed 64s and 54s) often carried smaller guns on one or both main gun decks than their British (or indeed French) equivalents. During the 18th century, it was increasingly the case that British 74s mounted 28--32-pounders on their lower gundecks and almost always 28 (rarely 30)--18-pounders on their upper main gundecks (a tiny handful of RN ships had 24-pounders). The French 74s mounted 28--36-pounders on their lower decks by the second half of the C18th, and generally 30--18-pounders on the upper decks. Spanish 74s seem only to have had 28--24pdrs on the lower main gundeck and 30--18pdrs on he upper one. (The Spanish pound wasn't very different in weight from the ours, but the French pound was materially heavier, so a French 36-pdr fired a ball weighing ~39 pounds, and the French 18-pdr shot weighed ~19 lb.s.) Judging by what I've seen in Spanish documents published to mark the bicentenary of Trafalgar ("La campana de Trafalgar 1804-1805: corpus documental", published in 2004), the Spanish made a serious attempt to up-gun many of their ships of the line in or shortly before 1805, including mounting heavier guns on some 74s, and adding their version of carronades ("obuses") on both three-and two-decker ships of the line. Whether particular gun changes reflected the perceived robustness of specific ships, the availability of particular gun calibres at the various arsenals, or the enthusiasm of particular commanding officers, I don't know.
    Several of the large two-decker, or three-decker, Spanish ships that did not already mount 36-pdrs on their lowest gundecks did so from the 1790s. A couple of Spanish two-deckers mounted 24-pdrs on both main gundecks.

    ReplyDelete

Labels

Bag The Hun (921) Books (551) Ironclads (527) AK47 (516) Wings at War (420) Algernon Pulls It Off (319) Pre-Dreadnoughts (285) Coastal Warfare (257) Back of Beyond (244) Napoleonic Naval (238) Britain's Small Wars (215) Victory at Sea (189) Knights of the Sky (178) Bolt Action (175) What a Tanker (174) Find Fix and Strike (167) MiG Alley (163) Target Locked On (163) Chain of Command (155) Old West (147) Bag The MiG (134) Naval Thunder (131) Naval Command (129) Sandbox Skirmish (122) Air War Over Khalkhin Gol (120) Duel of Aces (119) Indo China / Vietnam (118) Pirates (118) Fistful of Lead (109) 15mm Sci-Fi / Near Future (95) Darkest Africa (95) Strength and Honour (94) Continuation War (92) VBCW (89) Spandau and Lewis (84) Shows (83) ACW (82) Ancients (82) The Football War (76) Journals (74) Boardgames (72) Corsairs and Cavaliers (72) Shipwreck! (72) One Hour Wargames (70) France's Small Wars (69) BKC (65) Rapid Fire (65) AirWar:1918 (63) Saga (63) Saurian Safari (63) Cruel Seas (61) Air War C21 (60) Nimitz (60) International Naval Wargaming Day (59) The Men Who Would Be Kings (59) War of the Pacific (57) IABSM (56) Finest Hour (55) Lion Rampant (54) 2mm English Civil War (53) Flashpoint Alto Cenepa (53) Fortifications (53) Gladiators (53) Flashpoint Taiwan (50) HYW (47) Red Actions! (47) Cold War (46) Scramble for Britain (46) SCW (45) Dreadnoughts (44) Flashpoint Baltic (42) Flames above the Falklands (40) Death in the Dark Continent (38) Thud Ridge (37) Desert Spitfires (35) Atlantic Wall (34) English Civil War / Anglo Dutch War Naval (34) RCW (34) Post Apocalypse (31) Bag the Springbok (30) Iron Cow (30) Arctic Eagles (29) Samurai (29) Winter War (29) Mexican Revolution (28) Normandy Firefight (28) Full Thrust (27) It Rolls For Ivan (26) Steamer Wars (26) Torpedoes and Tides (26) Bulldogs Away! (25) Armoured Storm (24) Imaginations (24) Jet Knights of the Sky (23) 28mm English Civil War (22) Achtung Kommando! (22) Ecorcheurs (22) Flashpoint PVO (21) PITS (21) Ancient Naval (20) Portable Pike and Shot (20) Galactic Heroes (19) Strontium Dog (19) Iron Cross (18) Get the Goeben! (17) 2mm Medieval (16) Aeronef (15) Aircraft (15) Imperial Commander (15) Rate of Fire (15) Zulus! (15) Aliens (14) Dragon Rampant (14) Mad for War (14) Black Ops (13) CY6 Jet Age (13) Congo (13) Wars of Insurgency (13) Impetus (12) Through The Mud and Blood (12) What's on the Workbench? (12) Flashpoint Fleet Air Arm (11) Gaslands (11) Sharp Practice (11) 633 Squadron (10) Bohica (10) Franco Thai Air War (10) Jungle Green (10) 28mm Future Wars (9) Bombers over Germany (9) Cry Havoc (9) Dux Britanniarum (9) Fire in the Sky (9) Lacquered Coffins (9) Merry Xmas Mr Sankara (9) Ravenfeast (9) Renaissance Naval (9) Adventures in Jimland (8) Fly Fight Win (8) French Indian Wars (8) Star Wars Legion (8) Sword and Spear (8) A Mighty Fortress (7) Air War Angola (7) Frostgrave (7) Target for Tonight (7) Five Parsecs From Home (6) French Resistance (6) Medieval Naval (6) The Barons War (6) Check Your Six! (5) Five Men at Kursk (5) Fivecore Skirmish (5) Maurice (5) Never Mind The Billhooks (5) Seven Days to the River Rhine (5) Three Musketeers (5) What a Cowboy (5) Wings Over Suez (5) Arab Revolt (4) Blood Red Skies (4) Corvette Command (4) Fivecore Company Command (4) In Her Majesty's Name (4) Infamy Infamy (4) Winter Hammer (4) 2mm Portable Ancient Wargames (3) Battletech (3) Gangsters (3) HOTT (3) Hind Commander (3) Lord of the Sea (3) Luft 46 (3) Mourir Pour l'Indochine (3) Si Vis Pacem (3) Sturmovik Commander (3) Whispering Death (3) Black Powder (2) Chincha Islands War (2) Crom (2) Disposable Heroes (2) Dominion of Pike and Shot (2) Fire and Steel (2) Iron Stars (2) Judge Dredd (2) Lethal Skies (2) Load and Return (2) NUTS! (2) No Go Zone (2) Pulp! (2) Starfighters! (2) War in El Dorado (2) Wars of the Roses (2) A Billion Suns (1) Air War 1940 (1) Archibald (1) Battlegroup (1) Certainly Not! (1) Chivalry and Honour (1) Convoy (1) Dropzone Commander (1) Falklands War (1) Harpoon (1) Heroic Battles of Ferring Do (1) If The Lord Spares Us (1) Indo-Pakistan War (1) MiG Hunters (1) Midgard (1) Missile Threat (1) Missiles at Sea (1) Nam '68 (1) Naval Wargames Society (1) Norway 1940 (1) Oi Navarcoi! (1) Sea Wars Fleet Actions (1) Sino Japanese War (1) Spanish American War (1) Sunray is Down (1) Surviving 'Nam (1) Thumbs Up! (1) Ultracombat Normandy (1) Voidfighter (1) Xenos Rampant (1)