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Wednesday, 15 June 2016


17 comments:

  1. As an Aussie dual national having an interest in all this, I was wondering, do the "leave" people actually have a plan for the country if the succeed?

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  2. Seeing the mess the hooligans are doing in France I wonder if the rest of Europe should also have the right vote to oust Britain... just joking!!

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    1. With them and our 'holiday makers', I'd be inclined to understand if that happened.

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  3. I mostly work in Europe and as a teacher I've experienced Mr Gove's idea of a perfect world. He's probably picturing himself leading a fleet of Dunkirk-style 'little ships' to bring ex-pats home.

    Better in than out I say.

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  4. We want you to stay so do the right thing, please.

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  5. Danish Yankee here, so no bones in this dog race, but the impression I got from watching the debate is that a lot of the "leave"-voting is more of a proxy-vote on immigration. Does that seem apt?

    Leaving seems like it'd be very financially uncertain.

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    1. It seems that a lot of the emotion is related to immigration to me too. It is a problem, but the majority that form 'the problem' are actually from outside the EU in any case.

      The 'Leave' campaign is effectively about raising the UK's metaphoric drawbridge, rather than working with our neighbours to try to solve the problem together.

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  6. I'm a Brit that's been disenfranchised by being out of the UK too long, so I am not allowed to have a say in my future and that of my children and grandchildren. So if there's anyone out there's thinking of not voting because you can't decide, please cast your vote on my behalf for Remain. Just think of it as a public service and your good deed for the day.

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  7. Sorry Guys...

    Vote leave all the way...

    It boils down to one simple statement - Sovereignty.

    Millions gave their lives to give us in the UK the freedom to elect our governments. Can't see that just washed away.

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    1. I respect your right to your views but...

      Can you name a war that was begun because our sovereignty was threatened? Or can you tell me who elects the House of Lords?

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    2. "Millions gave their lives to give us in the UK the freedom to elect our governments."

      Ermmmm ... actually, no.

      Millions gave their lives to ensure that the other side of the channel was not controlled by a single power that might be inimical to our trade. Every European war in which the UK has been involved revolved around that issue. A vote for Brexit would be a slap in the face to the sacrifices you mention, by creating a unitary block on the other side of the channel, with us on the outside again. Napoleon's continental system would be in place, and all because of Brexit. Congratulations.

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  8. Have to agree with you there Jim.

    Not forgetting the unelected monarchy as well.

    I'm pretty sure most of those millions fought for an end to conflict and war rather than to prop up a particular political system. Of course democracy is a very important thing, which is why we are having a referendum free from EU involvement.

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  9. I try to keep politics out of my miniatures blogging, but I have to say that I'll be voting "Remain". As usual it's been a mucky campaign by both sides, but in my opinion the majority of the positives are with the Remain side, whilst there are too many unknowns on the Leave side. I haven't found it a straightforward decision, but I think we'll do better to keep our influence & cooperation on the big issues that face society, rather than turn into the grumpy recluse in the corner of the continent.

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  10. Yes, I try to steer clear of politics but I think this is such an important issue that I think it's worth over stepping the mark just a bit, in order to get the message across.

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